5 Courses with Marion Nestle
by
Louisa Kasdon
| January 16, 2012

We doubt even the most
sleep-deprived student could doze off in Marion Nestle's class. NYU's Paulette
Goddard Professor of Nutrition, Food Studies, and Public Health makes food
issues riveting, whether she's describing the parallels between the marketing of
cigarettes and that of sugary breakfast cereals or revealing scandalous
practices within the pet-food industry. A one-woman truth squad, she began
teaching at Brandeis in the '70s and served as a senior nutrition policy
advisor in DC in the '80s. Now her many books, articles, and lectures provide
immense source material for food activists. And soon she'll be schooling Boston: on Sunday, January 29, Nestle will provide the
keynote for the Let's Talk About Food Teach-In on the Farm Bill at the Museum of Science. (For details, visit
letstalkaboutfood.com.)
How did you become the food-politics
guru? The turning point came at
a conference at the National Cancer Institute. Many speakers were physicians
with international careers [focused] on smoking and the marketing of
cigarettes. They took pictures of cigarette ads everywhere they went, from the
jungles of Africa and the highest peaks in Nepal. One of the physicians gave a
slideshow on cigarette marketing to children. I turned to the person next to me
and said, "We should be doing this for Coca-Cola!" I started collecting slides
of all sorts of food marketing to children. That led to my first major
mainstream book, Food Politics. And it all began.
And then you wrote the article "Food
Marketing and Childhood Obesity - A Matter of Policy." I got tired of going to huge medical meetings
about childhood obesity where no one talked about food marketing. So I started
talking about it. . . . People are now very aware of the political forces
behind food advertising and recognize the public-health consequences of food
marketing. Recently, the editor of the medical journal The Lancet,
read by vast numbers of influential people every week, wrote a rant on how we
know that limiting food advertising has evidence-based impact. He said,
essentially, "Get your head out of the sand about food marketing!"
Why didn't we all notice that junk food
was marketed to kids just like cigarettes? You aren't supposed to. Good marketing slips below the radar: it's
cute, fun, and collectible. You don't think of T-shirts from food or beverage
companies as advertising, and you aren't supposed to. Even two-year-olds
recognize the mascots.
What got you interested in the Farm Bill? I decided to teach a course on it because I
didn't know enough about it - it's the best way to force myself to learn about
something. The bill is huge! . . . There isn't anything in American
agriculture, farming, and health that this bill doesn't touch, but there is no
overarching agenda. The Farm Bill is simply a collection of
government-supported programs, each with its own collection of lobbyists,
proponents, and opposing forces. You get the sense that everyone said, "Let's
just throw this program in." There is nothing rational in the Farm Bill.
Why do we need to learn about the Farm
Bill? The elephant in the room
in the Farm Bill is food stamps. Forty-five million Americans get food stamps,
and it overshadows the amount of money spent on agriculture subsidies by many
orders of magnitude. What are they [food stamps] doing in the Farm Bill? Why
isn't there a separate food bill? Here's the deal: politicians couldn't get the
votes for farm subsidies unless they got votes and support for urban programs.
We get a few new programs with millions here and there for fruits and
vegetables and farm education. It sounds like a lot, but it's trivial in a
[multi-billion-dollar] bill.
Louisa Kasdon can be reached at
louisa@louisakasdon.com.